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where would we be without me

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and call

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how's it going higher side chatters we

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know there are many tools in the magical

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toolbox that are carefully kept to the

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fringes and mocked in mainstream culture

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so there is a long history of use by

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powerful people and results too

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convincing to be ignored one of these

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arcane tools of course is astrology

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anyone who's analyzed a proper birth

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chart knows what I'm talking about and

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if you haven't you really owe it to

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today we're going deep into this occult

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art again with returning guests and

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fellow SoCal lever Austin Copic he's a

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highly respected astrologer author and

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teacher and I figured with events being

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so highly charged and unpredictable

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lately it would be great to get an

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astrological assessment of 2017 to give

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THD listeners some insight into how best

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to navigate the rough waters of our

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troubled times Ostrom a man welcome back

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to the higher side hey Greg thanks for

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having me hell yeah man psyched to have

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you back last time was a lot of fun we

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talked about the three hermetic arts

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communicating with entities how the

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gears of astrology work the astrological

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conditions of things like 9/11 it was a

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good time for sure and there were a

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couple questions left on the table

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though that I hoped we could kick this

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off with before we get into the 2017

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assessment yay let's begin with the past

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awesome yep always a strong play well

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one of those areas is astrology and how

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it relates to financial cycles obviously

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there's a lot of people wishing they

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could crack the code in this area but

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financial markets like everything else

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do seem like to have some cycles and

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patterns what's the best way to think

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about astrology in this context as you

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see it well well so that's not an area

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that I've specialized in one thing about

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astrology is that you can bring it to

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bear on a wide variety of subjects but

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it takes a lot of study yeah it you know

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we've you use the analogy of cracking a

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code you know if you look at code

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breakers they have to put in a lot of

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mental effort and so you know even where

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there are secrets to be found or

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patterns it's not like you just google

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and you're like okay that's it that said

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yeah there have been financial as

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all germs for as long as there have been

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market and there are a number of them

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who have excellent track records

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there's a guy remarry man who called the

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two thousand lei 2007 - or a 2009 super

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downturn years in advance remember

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reading this newsletter was like yeah so

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you want to hold onto your property and

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so maybe mid 2006 and then SELEX I think

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that's going to be the height of the

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market just like beautiful call if I had

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had if I had to own property at that

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time but that said there are there

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astrologers who focus on different

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levels of the market they're like that

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was at the macro trend right like what

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is the market as a whole going to be

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doing over ten years or five years but

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it for day trading which I thought was

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really interesting I know a guy who

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know a lot of the planets are moving but

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they don't change that much in a day

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of our visible system that changes

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really fast as the moon and so he

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basically watches the moon and watches

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it make configurations through a trading

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day and then set expectations for day

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trading based on that and he's been very

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successful he probably does some other

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his method that's Jonathan pearl so

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there it's there and you know what I've

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noticed is when I'm looking at I don't

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the trend I look at you know where the

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planets are and what the cycles are and

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then try to unpack the symbols from

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there and maybe if I had missed my

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primary education had been in economics

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that's not you know I didn't get a

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degree and economic I know something but

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so that's not the first thing that comes

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to me but I have there are a few things

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this money-wise

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and a lot of times that is what it means

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but not my area but yeah it's there if

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you look for it it's absolutely out

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there people have been beating the

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market for 30 years well on a base level

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or configurations that listeners could

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look for that tend to reflect well in

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the markets like what's our what's our

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money planet well so that's going to be

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different I mean it's going to be

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different for different countries and

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people so if you look at the the US

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the US has this so there's a little bit

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of controversy about which chart to use

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for the US most folks use roughly five

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o'clock on July fourth the signing of

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the Declaration of Independence as the

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you know as far as the moment when this

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entity really comes into being and

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separates from other entities mm-hmm

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responsive anyway the US has this Venus

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cancer and what's interesting is when

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those degrees get afflicted and

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afflicted as a technical term basically

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when there are configurations that are

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putting nasty pressure on another area

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hmm and so you know part of you know in

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a sense if we're looking at money we're

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just as interested in things going down

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as things going up anything that takes

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us off the baseline right yeah and I

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would say that that's true for

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divination of any sort divination or

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just prognostication you know whether

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you're neat silver or beyond fortune

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right you know what what's going to pop

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things up above the baseline what's

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going to go below and what's going to

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maybe reset the base and so what's

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relevant about that is that those

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degrees are going to be those are so the

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which are traditionally referred to

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as benefics you know that bene is and

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beneficent benevolent etc and although

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those terms have a moral connotation

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they tend to bring about situations that

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people like right and that so it's the

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smaller definition of good like a good

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day or a good year right on and so the

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US has both of those sort of tied up

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together in this one area which makes

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them very strong right there's been a

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lot of abundance we look at the history

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of the United States but there's also it

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also sort of it puts both of those eggs

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in one basket and so when something

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year but we talked about the Saturn

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decade ending beginning like a 40 year

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power cycle right and so Saturn will

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basically come along and start

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pressuring those degrees in 2018 and 19

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right and as far as you know capitalism

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obvious downturn you know it's been it's

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getting to be about ten years and if you

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know I dare you to find 10 years this is

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what the century where there wasn't like

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a pretty obvious correction or you know

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or recession so that that'll probably

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arrive right on schedule not this year

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not this year but damn well I mean

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that's great to know I like I like that

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kind of insight of course people can dig

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deeper into those particular

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configurations and maybe see how they

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relate on their own charts but actually

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thing yeah so what's interesting about

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looking at an individual persons chart

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is that you get one or more planets

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maybe may end up being a money trigger

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for someone because of their chart that

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isn't usually associated with money

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so they're generally positive but you

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know you absolutely have people's lives

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in charge where money for them is about

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the Sun or money is about Mars and

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that's the trigger for them and one

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thing that's interesting about financial

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strategy is listening to an interview

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with remarry man who had the good call

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about the massive danja last decade and

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he was talking about his best calls and

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his best calls about you know situations

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that weren't under his control lined up

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really cleanly with what were his best

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money transits like the things you know

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does the cycles in his chart that said

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okay you know this is going to be good

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for money for you that translated into

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him being able to make these really

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accurate calls and benefit

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wheels yeah we're literally looking at

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wheels right there's so many

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combinations it's definitely a deep

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study yet you know one of the things

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that I guess doesn't get discussed

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enough when people talking about you

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know learning astrology like there are

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basics you can learn but it's how many

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you know in a sense how many wheels can

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you hold in your head at the same time

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and maintain coherent clear thought yeah

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and what is your capacity to filter and

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process all of that information you know

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one of the things that I was excited

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about was I was like this is so hard

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like yeah this is just got to make me

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smarter you know if I consistently

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attempt to do this because this is

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engaging left reins engaged right brain

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and you know where requires a deep and

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complex harmonies and so I don't know

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I'd you know there's just always the

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matter and this is the thing with

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divination I was talking with our our

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friend and your your guest Gordon white

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about this couple weeks ago how you know

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sometimes the so we put this D the cards

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come up right or the you know the

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indicators were there you know in a

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planetary system but you weren't capable

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of seeing it at the time you know

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there's this necessary interface you

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know there's always a human interface

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with systems of divination and you know

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it's not a computer that just tells you

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exactly just that in the other sometimes

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it seems like that there are some things

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that are really easy to call but there's

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this sort of you know there's this human

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linkage between you know heaven and

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earth or between the visible and the

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invisible yeah well so that makes sense

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and so another thing I did want to ask

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you about that we didn't get you last

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time was a few kiss just apparent 13th

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sign that NASA made some statements

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about from what I read it's always kind

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of been there and maybe this is a tactic

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to make astrology seem random and

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useless

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it absolutely is fair enough what are

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your thoughts on this

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you won't hear me calling disinformation

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on many things

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so this is it's not that that's

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not a constellation right totally a

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constellation so let's just analyze this

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claim so 2,000 years ago

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in the eastern Mediterranean is where we

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have the first textural evidence that

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people are doing astrology more or less

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like I do it using a lot of the singing

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tools that people use now right

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so these are people who with absolutely

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no pollution in their skies look up and

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study the movements of the planets you

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know and the stars and they don't notice

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an entire constellation that's the idea

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right that's the Queen

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that's absurd we have star maps like

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Ophiuchus isn't even a modern name so

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the idea that this was discovered that

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this took like super powerful telescopes

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or you know science has liberated us

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from the you know the swamps of

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ignorance so that's that's a silly claim

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and it goes back to I think part of the

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reason that it's gotten cold at all is

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that people don't really know how the

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zodiac is constructed or what we do with

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it because it's astronomy and it's

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boring so basically that the zodiac that

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people use the names are drawn from

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constellations but it's actually a fixed

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geometrical division of the areas of the

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sky that doesn't process or move over

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time it's part of the problem is that

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the stars relatives us appear to move

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over time the sphere of the fixed stars

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is not entirely fixed it has this larger

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roughly like 25 26 thousand year cycle

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right and basically what that means is

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if you have a star calendar over a

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couple hundred years your star calendar

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stops being accurate it's up

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telling you what time of year it is

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right and the Egyptians the ancient

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Egyptians no doubt experienced this you

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see that they go through periods of

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calendar correction because they're like

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oh we've been doing 500 years it's

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supposed to be you know spring was

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supposed to start a week and a half ago

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but now it's just starting you get this

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you know this is the slippage right and

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so at some point

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you get this insight that you can divide

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the sky in a way that doesn't change

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over time and that's called the tropical

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zodiac right and so we have in order to

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account for this we get this Aristarchus

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and the 3rd century BCE is a great guy

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who we have record of it writing about

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this people probably figured this out

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earlier but it's at least that old right

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and so most of the time we're talking

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about signs we're talking about those

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divisions of the sky that don't change

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and because they're named for

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constellations it's really confusing

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right if you don't know about all of

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this now we still look at stars stars

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are still really important like so if

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you have you know Mars coming right next

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to this brilliant star would say Antares

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mark spent a lot of time next to red and

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parties last year that's still accounted

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for but the stars won't use to define

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the signs because the stars from our

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point of view move over time we want a

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fixed frame of reference okay so you

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know part of it is this information and

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then part of it is it's complicated and

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I daresay potentially boring to find the

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truth hahahaha

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right well I'm glad we definitely got to

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address that because it's come up before

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whenever I've brought up astrology it

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seems to be something people talk about

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yeah and it's the the you get the same

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issue with the sign changing over time

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that was baked in from the beginning

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that's why we're using this fixed frame

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of reference instead of the Stars

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because the Stars do slide over time so

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when NASA says oh you know the signs

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have changed things have moved

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absolutely and that's exactly why we use

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the tools that we have and that's why

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they started using it as ends of years

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ago so we wouldn't have that issue but

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you know what's funny is that comes up

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about every two years at least out of

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the last ten as if it were a totally new

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discovery yeah I'm sure well good

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summary there and to get into the actual

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timeline of course

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we did talk about the astrological

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conditions of the final few months of

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2016 last time we talked I think we both

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kind of expected Clinton to take the

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election and we talked about that cycle

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I did yeah yeah all Mia culpa on that

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you know I I didn't dig into the

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candidates chart super hard I have some

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colleagues who have great track records

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and have spent a lot more time in that

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branch tonight I had and everybody was

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just like yeah Clinton's gonna take it

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and I was like okay I'm really busy I

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don't want to spend 40 hours you know

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redoing the work you did but not the

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case yeah well I think it was a lot of

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it had to do with we talked about that

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cycle ending in 2020 so we thought that

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Hillary would be a natural choice to

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kind of close out that cycle this whole

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thing about the globalist movement

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you know this whole collectivist kind of

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thing and now we're rearing back the

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other way but I think that's kind of

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what brought us to that idea yeah well

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in you know what's interesting is so

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again I'm going to reference a

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conversation Gordon and I had a while

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ago so you know the high-water mark for

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this wave of globalization I think it

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obviously happened and that's receding

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right you see resistance to that all

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over the world right now for all sorts

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of reasons itting reasons great reasons

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and terrible reasons and what I kind of

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the scenario that I thought was we were

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going to get really sick of it under

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Clinton and that it was going to be like

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death by decay all right but instead it

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got immolated right I would see the

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Trump victory and the way this is

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working is as a much more rapid

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decomposition right like the you know

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setting the corpse on fire rather than

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letting it gently rot and that's a

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metaphor from alchemy they called it

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there's the the dry way and the wet way

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and both of them are ways of separating

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the spirit or essence of matter from the

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body of matter

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literally it's the difference between

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you know throwing something in the oven

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versus letting you know letting the bugs

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pick it clean right letting it letting

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it rot and decompose and so instead of

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the wet way we're going the dry way

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history coming in dry for a way more

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aggressive reaction or changing of the

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tide yeah yeah I mean it's the same

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transition right but the the route to

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the end of the decade is different than

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I thought it was going to be right on so

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looking back at 2016 analysis are there

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other areas that surprised you perhaps

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or maybe areas where you can actually

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see the reflection of the roadmap in the

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sky being highly accurate or having a

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great influence oh yeah I'm really happy

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with everything I said about 2016

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basically except the election yeah I'm

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totally like I well we weren't talking

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at the beginning of 2016

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but right away I was like okay there's

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this Mars Saturn thing giant pain in the

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ass lots of you know contentiousness

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you know cultural contentious is like we

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haven't seen some very serious military

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action you end up the height I know and

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I pin that to the Mars retrograde cycle

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and I don't want to go back into all of

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the specifics of it but basically we had

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a lot of military action in the Middle

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East that wasn't reported on because

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every was interested in what Donald or

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Hillary said you know there's the multi

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front land war happening which is yeah

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kind of important so yeah I remember

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they were launching this military

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operation to retake Fallujah at the end

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of spring and everybody's like but

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Hillary said this or but Donald said

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this and I'm just like that this is a

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huge thing yeah yeah

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anyway I yeah I'm totally happy with

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what I said about 2016 except for the

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election I really thought it was going

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to go the other way one element that I

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did think was interesting you can

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definitely tell there's something in the

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air around the idea of fake news or not

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being able to really identify truth as

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easily and

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the biggest phenomenon a 2016 that was

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just had nothing to do with the election

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or politics with Pokemon go so you got

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people looking for fake creatures out in

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the world and it definitely caught on

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more than anything and then you couple

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that kind of theme with the fake news

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narrative and you can definitely get a

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sense that something was going on there

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oh yeah well and I and plenty of other

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astrologers we're talking about that in

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2015 going into 2016 that's really that

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was an easy call reality getting melty

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there was a series of Saturn Neptune

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squares we expected the definition of

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the real culturally to get very

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difficult to ascertain it's like

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confusion and depression and delusion um

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it's it was just a sort of anatomy of

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that Saturn is basically the planet that

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when we connect to that or see its

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influence or whatever it signifies

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reality like most people's dads mean

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when they say reality right like you

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know like get a job this is the economic

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situation you're going to get up on time

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go to work right it's time and space as

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we experience it and it can agree on

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right like solid knock-knock Neptune is

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the tripped-out hippy planet and so

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Neptune is if you think of if you

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imagine the solar system for a second

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and you imagine all of the the planets

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proper right Neptune is the farthest out

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and its orbit encloses the rest of the

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system right you have stuff beyond

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Neptune but different stuff right yep

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puto but Neptune is like 300 times the

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size of Pluto okay it's a different kind

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of body and so Neptune is this like very

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big very fluid

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you know dreamy perspective it's really

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you know when people get a Neptune

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transit or people are born with like a

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Sun Neptune conjunction they have really

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big perspectives but they have a hard

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time

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I'm bringing it down as soon as

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literally it's the edge of our systems

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reality right it gets dark and cold and

545
00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:17,820
weird if you go out further than that

546
00:24:22,399 --> 00:24:19,950
and so when you have historically when

547
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:22,409
you have Saturn and Neptune in the

548
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:24,210
configuration that they were last year

549
00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:26,580
which is a square and a square means

550
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:29,460
that they're exactly 90 degrees away

551
00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:31,710
from our point of view rent in reference

552
00:24:39,769 --> 00:24:35,820
to us and so squares basically give you

553
00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:39,779
friction between those two planets like

554
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,580
between what their you know their

555
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:43,919
priorities right it's the one of the

556
00:24:48,259 --> 00:24:46,129
worst it's one of the least harmonious

557
00:24:51,499 --> 00:24:48,269
relationships that those spheres can

558
00:24:53,810 --> 00:24:51,509
have and so when you have like tripped

559
00:24:56,629 --> 00:24:53,820
out I'm not sure what's real planet and

560
00:25:00,039 --> 00:24:56,639
you know dad reality planet in

561
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:00,049
contention it ends up sort of messing up

562
00:25:05,869 --> 00:25:02,940
what people expect and what reality is

563
00:25:08,269 --> 00:25:05,879
going to offer and so you get challenges

564
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:08,279
to you know what everybody can agree on

565
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:11,370
what is the news what are the facts you

566
00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:14,490
know is virtual reality reality okay and

567
00:25:18,289 --> 00:25:16,500
so that's a cycle you can you can just

568
00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:18,299
follow and go back through and that one

569
00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:21,059
was interesting and this is a little

570
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:24,870
kind of jumping back to how you always

571
00:25:29,139 --> 00:25:26,750
have to have a human doing

572
00:25:32,629 --> 00:25:29,149
prognostication you know whether it's

573
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Tarot or statistics or whatever or

574
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:36,690
serology I was aware of that and I think

575
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,610
did an excellent job of articulating it

576
00:25:42,860 --> 00:25:40,320
repeatedly throughout the year you can

577
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:42,870
listen again other podcasts or reading

578
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:46,110
my luminous writings that doesn't mean

579
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:50,090
that I was totally immune right

580
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:52,830
it just it doesn't mean just because

581
00:25:57,529 --> 00:25:55,110
you're aware of something doesn't make

582
00:26:00,919 --> 00:25:57,539
you invulnerable to it right and that's

583
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:00,929
one of the you know it you're certainly

584
00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:03,809
better positioned than if you didn't

585
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:06,600
know about it right I don't know what

586
00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:08,730
confusions I avoided because I avoided

587
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:11,789
them but at the same time you know when

588
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:13,710
you're looking at history you're still

589
00:26:19,129 --> 00:26:16,710
part of history right that makes perfect

590
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:19,139
sense well and actually just sorry one

591
00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:20,340
thing I would say that we're in

592
00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:24,120
hangover period that that was going to

593
00:26:26,990 --> 00:26:25,860
be my question is because we talked

594
00:26:29,419 --> 00:26:27,000
about you know the Saturn and Neptune

595
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:29,429
cycle and how it affects the fake news

596
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:31,620
stain and then there's also the Saturn

597
00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:33,299
Pluto conjunction and the thickening of

598
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,190
borders and I was curious when those two

599
00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:37,200
things might be coming to an end because

600
00:26:43,159 --> 00:26:39,620
I find them both pretty annoying okay so

601
00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:43,169
so our perfect configuration or the

602
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,270
perfect version is Saturn up to exactly

603
00:26:52,669 --> 00:26:47,039
90 degrees away from each other right

604
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:52,679
that happened three times in 2016 it

605
00:26:58,909 --> 00:26:56,340
will not happen again in 2017 however

606
00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:58,919
there is sort of like a margin of error

607
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:01,679
where it's close enough to be active

608
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:04,169
right where the planets are let's say

609
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,330
they're not ninety but it's like 87

610
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:09,000
degrees right and so you still get some

611
00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:10,080
of that action

612
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:13,590
but it's not quite right and so when

613
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,049
we're coming into a period where it's

614
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,240
not happened yet but it's almost there

615
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:21,360
we call that applying right that this is

616
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:24,480
coming into being and then after

617
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:26,130
something has happened like I said I'm

618
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:28,350
on Neptune Square after it's happened

619
00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:30,570
and it's not going to you know we're

620
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:32,580
done with it but at the same time it's

621
00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:35,010
only like 30 feet behind us in the

622
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:36,990
rearview mirror we say that those two

623
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:39,720
are separating but it's still active and

624
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:43,679
so you know for a lot of 2017 we're in

625
00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:46,110
the separating from that where it's the

626
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:48,390
last thing that we saw so it's still on

627
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:50,460
our minds but it is in the rearview

628
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,370
mirror right and so you know after

629
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:55,919
something happens you try to process it

630
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,500
right and that's what you look at the

631
00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:00,240
media or what people are saying online

632
00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:03,779
people are trying to process these very

633
00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:05,940
real challenges to reality and there's

634
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:08,520
this hangover from you know oh I believe

635
00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:11,640
this and it was wrong or those people

636
00:28:16,669 --> 00:28:13,590
believe this and it's wrong you know

637
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:16,679
it's the sort of disillusionment so

638
00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:19,710
that's fading this year as far as the

639
00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:21,240
configuration is concerned we're

640
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:23,190
processing that rather than getting

641
00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:25,260
exactly the same trick happening again

642
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:28,980
the saturn pudo thing i would say that

643
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,770
we're so that conjunction and a

644
00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:33,419
conjunction is very easy to imagine the

645
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:34,140
planets are just

646
00:28:39,170 --> 00:28:35,460
right next to each other in our sky

647
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:39,180
right that doesn't even happen proper

648
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:40,770
until the end of the decade but we're

649
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:44,130
moving towards it there was a shadow of

650
00:28:49,610 --> 00:28:47,640
it especially last year but we'll be

651
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,620
like that that's that's really waiting

652
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:52,320
for us that'll be that's something that

653
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:55,410
I think will be more evident in 2018

654
00:29:00,380 --> 00:28:58,380
even than now as much as I don't like

655
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,390
that just strictly from an astrological

656
00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:02,640
point of view that's going to intensify

657
00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:04,950
as we get towards the end of the decade

658
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,480
rather than evaporate hmm right on well

659
00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:12,000
so now that we do know Trump is

660
00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:13,740
president have you looked into his chart

661
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,480
anymore or gotten insights from other

662
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,240
astrologers about his character or what

663
00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:20,880
kind of president he might be well so I

664
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:22,740
mean I've looked at his chart before

665
00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:24,930
looking at someone's chart and being

666
00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:28,140
able to say some things about their

667
00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:30,990
character or their behavior is a lot

668
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:33,150
easier than knowing whether they will

669
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:35,990
win a contest with another person right

670
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:38,520
so one of the things that's nice is

671
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:41,640
we've had a timed birth certificate

672
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:44,310
chart for Trump from the beginning one

673
00:29:49,030 --> 00:29:46,230
of the issues with the election last

674
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:49,040
year is that a lot of astrologers were

675
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,330
making predictions about Trump versus

676
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:54,000
Clinton when they didn't have Clinton's

677
00:29:59,840 --> 00:29:57,210
real data we still don't know when she's

678
00:30:01,610 --> 00:29:59,850
born really yeah there are like three

679
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:01,620
different birth times fooling around out

680
00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:03,480
there and some astrologers are like I

681
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:05,460
think I'm pretty sure it's this one

682
00:30:12,860 --> 00:30:09,360
because this works well enough with her

683
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,870
history but we still don't know and this

684
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:14,640
might be fun for you and some your

685
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:17,340
listeners there's actually a pretty good

686
00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:21,450
case to be made that she found out about

687
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:24,840
astrology long time ago and actually

688
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:28,110
intentionally gave wrong data ah because

689
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:30,210
she didn't want people you know she

690
00:30:34,610 --> 00:30:32,220
because she didn't want people to be

691
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:34,620
able to say this or that about her right

692
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:37,110
yeah and that yet my my friend Chris

693
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:39,810
Brennan did a whole podcast about that I

694
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:42,510
love that kind of stuff he was just on

695
00:30:47,470 --> 00:30:45,090
it with the day like he tracked on every

696
00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:47,480
source he called these reporters

697
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:50,420
story-like 1991 you know apparently

698
00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:52,760
there's another astrologer you know 20

699
00:31:00,760 --> 00:30:56,270
years ago who or 25 years ago who like

700
00:31:03,910 --> 00:31:00,770
talked to someone who knew her was a non

701
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:03,920
acupuncturist the chiropractor and

702
00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:05,510
apparently the chiropractor was into

703
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:08,300
astrology and was like oh hey I looked

704
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:10,370
at her chart and was like oh hey you're

705
00:31:15,550 --> 00:31:12,970
a Leo rising just like me and you know

706
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:15,560
there's a rabbit hole there but that was

707
00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:18,110
one of the issues with I think a lot of

708
00:31:24,910 --> 00:31:21,260
the predictions last year is that people

709
00:31:27,310 --> 00:31:24,920
a number of astrologers didn't actually

710
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,320
have the data you know they knew the day

711
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:29,120
but there's a big when you're trying to

712
00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:31,730
figure out something in a contest right

713
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:34,760
you need time of day and it was like

714
00:31:40,930 --> 00:31:37,490
8:00 p.m. 8:00 a.m. 1:30 in the morning

715
00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:40,940
and all those gave very different charts

716
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:43,280
right sorry that was a that was a

717
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:45,410
tangent but I don't know husband but

718
00:31:49,330 --> 00:31:46,730
yeah that was one of the problems and I

719
00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:49,340
was looking back I should have been more

720
00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:52,190
critical of some of my colleagues than

721
00:31:57,580 --> 00:31:55,280
like so you're saying this and assuming

722
00:32:02,080 --> 00:31:57,590
that it's 8 a.m. or 8 p.m. birth time

723
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:02,090
but we don't know hmm right yeah because

724
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:03,440
astrology is hard enough when you have

725
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:07,610
the data but with Trump we will call on

726
00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:11,840
chart with Trump we do have a birth

727
00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:14,180
certificate and every astrologer I've

728
00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:16,550
ever seen look at it like oh yeah oh

729
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:18,800
yeah so here are the two things that

730
00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:21,970
make everybody go oh yeah first he has

731
00:32:29,290 --> 00:32:25,670
Mars and Leo on the ascendant so the

732
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:29,300
ascendant is ascending is rising right

733
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:31,420
so that's your rising sign literally

734
00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:35,570
Mars had just breached the horizon in

735
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,150
the east where everything rises most

736
00:32:43,390 --> 00:32:40,640
obviously the Sun and so the ascendant

737
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:43,400
point in a chart is how that person

738
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:46,040
projects themselves into the world right

739
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:48,110
so if you have like Jupiter there you

740
00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:50,470
can expect like a relatively like jolly

741
00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:52,760
philosophical fellow if you have Saturn

742
00:32:59,620 --> 00:32:55,790
there they're going to be kind of cranky

743
00:33:01,360 --> 00:32:59,630
and cranky and more reserved so Mars I

744
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:01,370
think everybody

745
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:02,990
has some associations with the planet

746
00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:06,530
Mars Mars is the warrior the fighter

747
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:09,350
it's a kid there's contentiousness right

748
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:11,510
is going getting right in your face

749
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:13,850
Mars rising with Mars on the rising like

750
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:16,730
that you absolutely expect someone who

751
00:33:23,290 --> 00:33:19,490
you know you look at a book like pull

752
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:23,300
may from 1700 years or 1800 years ago or

753
00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:25,610
video sound and look up Mars on the

754
00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:27,470
rising the Bick oh yes this person will

755
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:30,830
be brash and rude and uncouth and they

756
00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:33,170
will affect their enemies like this is

757
00:33:39,610 --> 00:33:35,870
not one of the subtleties of the art and

758
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:39,620
it's in the sign of Leo so a planet will

759
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:41,929
always be in a sign and a sign sort of

760
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:45,770
puts clothes on the significations

761
00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:47,570
of the planet right the planets are all

762
00:33:52,810 --> 00:33:50,870
these sort of raw areas right and they

763
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:52,820
have a character but they're not it's

764
00:33:56,919 --> 00:33:55,490
not super filled in you need the sign

765
00:34:02,530 --> 00:33:56,929
that the planets been to kind of help

766
00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:02,540
fill out the image right and so in Mars

767
00:34:07,450 --> 00:34:05,300
and Leo is about representation it's

768
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:07,460
about self it's about you know we have

769
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:11,450
Mars using the image of self as a tool

770
00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:14,450
or a weapon and so you know you this is

771
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:16,340
the guy who has his name all over

772
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:18,710
everything and we can say no matter what

773
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,290
you think I'm extremely brand conscious

774
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:24,320
right yeah and so you have you know it's

775
00:34:28,930 --> 00:34:26,330
just like oh god that it's right there

776
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:28,940
and if you look at some of the physio na

777
00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:34,610
mcstuffles in the rising supposed to be

778
00:34:38,830 --> 00:34:36,919
red faced supposed to give them a

779
00:34:41,290 --> 00:34:38,840
reddish coloration they're supposed to

780
00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:41,300
be like red-faced and rude and out of

781
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:43,700
breast and contentious and willing to

782
00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:45,770
fight and you know it's just right there

783
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:47,629
it's everybody looks at that and they're

784
00:34:53,379 --> 00:34:50,570
like oh okay away literature and it's

785
00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:53,389
literally from a birth certificate the

786
00:34:59,470 --> 00:34:56,030
other thing that I think is really

787
00:35:01,810 --> 00:34:59,480
obvious is if you look at the position

788
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:01,820
of the Sun in its chart so he has the

789
00:35:06,910 --> 00:35:04,730
Sun in Gemini right and whenever you

790
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,920
have not everybody does but sometimes

791
00:35:11,230 --> 00:35:08,720
you'll have a planet that's right there

792
00:35:13,660 --> 00:35:11,240
in line with the Sun you know if you

793
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:13,670
could see through the sun's blinding

794
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:14,700
rays you

795
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:16,380
would see the other planet behind it

796
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:18,930
lined up like that or in front of it if

797
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:22,050
it's Venus we call that a conjunction

798
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:26,280
and so Trump has a son Uranus

799
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:28,530
conjunction right and so this one has to

800
00:35:34,609 --> 00:35:30,450
do with identity and sort of what is the

801
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:34,619
person's center and Uranus if we look at

802
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:37,800
the significations for Uranus it's all

803
00:35:44,109 --> 00:35:41,490
about breaking patterns revolting

804
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,119
against whatever you're supposed to do

805
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:46,320
revolt against whoever you're supposed

806
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:46,980
to be

807
00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:49,770
it's the planet of departure from the

808
00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:53,190
norm of pattern breaking of rebellion

809
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,750
it's contentious like Mars but it's it's

810
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:00,000
not necessarily about I'm going to fight

811
00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:00,450
you

812
00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:06,060
say and I'm going to do things my way as

813
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:09,960
these are things that we prize in our

814
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:12,900
culture right of individuality and all

815
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,210
that but you know departure from the

816
00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:17,760
norm and rebellion is neither good nor

817
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:18,599
bad

818
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:21,390
right right it does seem accurate though

819
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:23,190
yeah and so when you have somebody like

820
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:25,230
it's you know that it's literally it's

821
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:27,150
the wild card planet the planet of

822
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:29,970
disruption one thing that's kind of fun

823
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:33,630
if you look at so Uranus the planet is

824
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:36,540
thought to be really really strong when

825
00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:38,460
it's in the section of the sky that we

826
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:40,740
call Aquarius which is seven years out

827
00:36:46,460 --> 00:36:43,050
of every 84 and if we just look at the

828
00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:46,470
20th century he was there twice the last

829
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:50,550
time was like how I was like 96 through

830
00:36:54,740 --> 00:36:53,130
2003 we got the Internet everybody got

831
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:54,750
the internet it had been around for a

832
00:37:00,020 --> 00:36:56,520
while but everybody got it the time

833
00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:00,030
before that was the mid teens where we

834
00:37:04,579 --> 00:37:01,950
had World War one and it was the first

835
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:04,589
industrial war you know the machine gun

836
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:07,290
was very disruptive technology as was

837
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:10,890
artillery and gas and planes right and

838
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:13,260
you can go back you know those are I

839
00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:14,430
think those are good examples of

840
00:37:19,790 --> 00:37:17,700
disruptions that are neither you know I

841
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:19,800
guess you can say World War one is

842
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:23,940
pretty much in the negative but you know

843
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:26,250
that the consumer Internet like

844
00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:28,290
everybody getting the Internet

845
00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:31,500
manly 96 to 2003 period you know that

846
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:34,260
was a Pandora's box full of gifts

847
00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:37,770
blessings and curses right yeah and so

848
00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:40,440
it the key thing that Uranus does is it

849
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:43,350
changes the game you know it's not about

850
00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:46,710
making a smart or a dumb move within the

851
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,380
rule set it's trying to change the rule

852
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:50,880
set or just be like you know what I'm

853
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:52,380
not going to play by those rules right

854
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:54,510
instead of a good or a bad role of

855
00:38:00,800 --> 00:37:56,610
Monopoly it's kicking over the table

856
00:38:02,660 --> 00:38:00,810
right and so you know with Trump having

857
00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:02,670
that conjunctive son and being sort of

858
00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:04,920
an avatar of that that makes perfect

859
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:07,560
sense you know the first couple weeks of

860
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:09,780
the presidency there's a lot of like no

861
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:11,490
I'm going to try to do things even

862
00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:13,560
though the rules say I can't right yeah

863
00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:15,420
you know I think that was very much the

864
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:17,790
nature of the primaries in the election

865
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:19,290
was there like well but you're not

866
00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:21,810
playing this game smartly according to

867
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:23,220
the rules where if he was playing a

868
00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:26,910
different game yeah and so you know

869
00:38:31,930 --> 00:38:30,150
whatever people think about him I think

870
00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:31,940
that we can say that those Iranian

871
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:34,200
characteristics which are suggested

872
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:36,330
extremely strongly by the natal chart

873
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:39,450
are very much right there

874
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:41,370
you know that's pretty in arguable and

875
00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:43,350
it's not like there's you know if you

876
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:45,150
know even just a little smallest bit of

877
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:47,610
astrology I'm not stretching or

878
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:50,130
torturing symbols to get their Sun and

879
00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:53,160
Uranus right there boom one thing that's

880
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,280
interesting about that is so I talked

881
00:39:02,450 --> 00:38:59,280
about wheels within wheels right so one

882
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:02,460
thing you can do is you can hold up the

883
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,460
United States chart next to a leaders

884
00:39:09,470 --> 00:39:06,960
chart and you can look at the

885
00:39:12,590 --> 00:39:09,480
relationship between those two this is

886
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:12,600
basically synastry and so much more

887
00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:14,610
common to look at two charts in

888
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:16,980
relationship to each other for romantic

889
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:19,560
compatibility or male friendship or

890
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:21,630
relationship but you can also do this

891
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:25,060
with a larger entity and a person

892
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:27,490
what is worth noting is if you look at

893
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:30,970
the u.s. chart the Mars for the US right

894
00:39:35,610 --> 00:39:32,650
we know what Mars means Mars

895
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,620
you know warfare contention that kind of

896
00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:36,880
attitude

897
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:41,980
Mars is right on top of trumps on Uranus

898
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:45,010
conjunction so if we're looking at where

899
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:48,160
does Trump naturally intersect with the

900
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:50,260
Americans aggregor with the you know

901
00:39:57,420 --> 00:39:53,470
this larger you know the American psyche

902
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:57,430
right yeah he plugs right into Mars that

903
00:40:01,320 --> 00:39:58,450
doesn't sound good

904
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,330
well I mean you know was anger an

905
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:04,000
important part of getting elected for

906
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:04,390
him

907
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:07,450
yeah things like it right that Mars is

908
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:11,740
angry so yeah you know there's that well

909
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:13,510
does that signify we should expect a lot

910
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:15,730
of war and his presidency you know

911
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:18,430
that's a good question I don't

912
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:20,350
necessarily know I don't necessarily

913
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:22,180
think so I would want to look at a bunch

914
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,030
of other stuff so there's this idea you

915
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:28,000
know each chart it tends to unfold in a

916
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:29,770
certain way right where there will be

917
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:32,110
periods that are very contentious and

918
00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:33,880
periods are very peaceful and periods of

919
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:36,340
internal conflict and external conflict

920
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:39,780
all this kind of stuff right and so

921
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:43,660
ensure the person who is plugged into

922
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:46,440
the big seat of that larger entity

923
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:50,650
matters but I would tend to say that the

924
00:40:57,570 --> 00:40:54,610
the cycles of the nation itself are more

925
00:41:00,240 --> 00:40:57,580
dominant than the single person in

926
00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:00,250
charge I actually had this discussion an

927
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:01,990
astrology podcast my friend Chris

928
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:04,690
Brennan where he was looking at some

929
00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:07,270
Roman era astrological attacks and

930
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:09,460
they're like oh the the chart of the

931
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:11,710
Emperor becomes the chart of the nation

932
00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:14,950
and that makes sense if you have an

933
00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:17,620
emperor with unlimited power right you'd

934
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:19,480
be like okay so let's throw this chart

935
00:41:26,010 --> 00:41:23,050
out hey kiddo but regardless of how many

936
00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:26,020
of the rules Trump challenges and

937
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:27,220
regardless of whether it gets away with

938
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:29,650
this or gets away with that it's not

939
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,680
going to become an imperial autocracy

940
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:35,200
with you know if we're not going back to

941
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:37,150
Caligula mm-hmm right there are some

942
00:41:41,010 --> 00:41:38,440
frightening

943
00:41:42,359 --> 00:41:41,020
sort of shadows of that like I know that

944
00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:42,369
there are a lot of people who are

945
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,160
worried about you know people thought

946
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:47,440
people used to you know COO or take over

947
00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:50,290
or Hitler's rise to power I understand

948
00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:51,220
that there are some frightening

949
00:41:56,970 --> 00:41:54,670
parallels it seems absurd that we would

950
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:56,980
literally get to Roman emperor level

951
00:42:03,809 --> 00:42:00,640
even the monastic dictator alive right

952
00:42:05,819 --> 00:42:03,819
now can't really compare or have a hard

953
00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:05,829
time really comparing to what has

954
00:42:09,329 --> 00:42:07,750
happened you know what happened you know

955
00:42:09,859 --> 00:42:09,339
two thousand years ago or a thousand

956
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:09,869
years ago

957
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:13,210
fair enough so time is definitely going

958
00:42:18,809 --> 00:42:15,130
by pretty quickly let's get into that

959
00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:18,819
road map for 2017 as an overview broadly

960
00:42:21,809 --> 00:42:20,380
speaking what kind of year does it look

961
00:42:26,370 --> 00:42:21,819
like it's going to be what do you see as

962
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:26,380
being the major themes okay so I guess

963
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:29,380
first of all I see it as 2016 part two

964
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:31,690
right I don't know if it's the

965
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:34,650
redemption the revenge the you know

966
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:37,839
depends of your storyline but the two

967
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:43,569
have a tremendous amount in common 2017

968
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:45,849
again I'm thinking of it as a sequel to

969
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:49,690
2016 and the reason why is that it has a

970
00:42:57,059 --> 00:42:52,720
lot in common with 2016 astrologically

971
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,069
we have several planets so several outer

972
00:43:01,859 --> 00:42:59,440
planets which are these marker like

973
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:01,869
Saturn for example marks out like two to

974
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:05,770
three year chapters of the world right

975
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:07,750
and Saturn is going to be in the same

976
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,930
sign and we have some other indicators

977
00:43:17,099 --> 00:43:12,960
that are basically in the same place

978
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:17,109
right so we have a there's a lot of the

979
00:43:25,170 --> 00:43:22,960
character is similar it's not um okay

980
00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:25,180
when you think how summarize this I

981
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,060
wrote like an 8,000 word article on this

982
00:43:33,089 --> 00:43:30,160
a month and a half ago which people

983
00:43:36,510 --> 00:43:33,099
should read one of the characteristics

984
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:36,520
of 2017 just looking at the astrology is

985
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:39,450
that you have this super abundance of

986
00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:42,790
planets in fire signs right so the signs

987
00:43:48,059 --> 00:43:45,640
are associated with one of the four

988
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:48,069
classical elements think of them as

989
00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:50,800
states of matter solid versus plasmas

990
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:52,180
etc etc

991
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:55,359
and with 2017 we have a super abundance

992
00:44:03,180 --> 00:43:59,440
of fire stuff and so just this elemental

993
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:03,190
quality helps characterize some of the

994
00:44:11,069 --> 00:44:07,119
year right if looking at water versus

995
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:11,079
fire versus error versus hearth and fire

996
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:15,700
is the most volatile and chaotic and

997
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:18,790
highest energy of the elements right if

998
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:20,260
we're looking at them in terms of states

999
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:22,390
of matter it's the high energy state of

1000
00:44:26,849 --> 00:44:24,190
matter right when things are on fire

1001
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:26,859
their plasma their stars right we can

1002
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:30,460
say high energy harder to predict it can

1003
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:33,520
be difficult you know to predict the

1004
00:44:38,099 --> 00:44:35,200
movement of air right that's like

1005
00:44:41,790 --> 00:44:38,109
convection patterns that's that map is

1006
00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:41,800
beyond me but fire is the structure of

1007
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:44,440
fire is even more difficult to predict

1008
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,160
and we have a bunch of stuff we have a

1009
00:44:53,609 --> 00:44:51,119
bunch of configurations that highlight

1010
00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:53,619
Uranus which as I said before has a

1011
00:44:59,789 --> 00:44:56,440
disruptive quality and indicates moments

1012
00:45:03,809 --> 00:44:59,799
where the game changes so we have a lot

1013
00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:03,819
of things changing very rapidly

1014
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:07,480
it being very difficult to just sort of

1015
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:09,730
planting plan out your year and expect

1016
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:12,089
everything to move according to plan

1017
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:14,910
right if we're thinking about strategies

1018
00:45:20,579 --> 00:45:17,170
you know different types of strategies

1019
00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:20,589
for dealing with a year you know some

1020
00:45:25,650 --> 00:45:22,869
years it makes a lot of sense to bunker

1021
00:45:28,109 --> 00:45:25,660
down to make really structured plans and

1022
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:28,119
just execute those right whereas at

1023
00:45:32,339 --> 00:45:29,470
other points we have to be really

1024
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,349
adaptable because if we make a plan it's

1025
00:45:38,490 --> 00:45:34,240
going to be invalidated you know in a

1026
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:38,500
month and so this is very much again

1027
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:39,609
this is something Gordon that we're

1028
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:41,410
talking about and I wrote about a lot in

1029
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:44,319
December is getting flexibility and

1030
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:47,440
adaptability right because what that

1031
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:51,849
means is not not making plans because

1032
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:53,369
things might change

1033
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:55,510
there's a quote I'm going to butcher

1034
00:46:01,079 --> 00:45:57,280
from a book I was reading at the time

1035
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:01,089
where the character was just 90 year old

1036
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:03,430
secret agent it's thinking back to an

1037
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:05,530
old sergeant you know in Burma and

1038
00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:09,250
that guy told her that if you expect the

1039
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:12,340
unexpected the expected will walk up

1040
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:14,710
behind you and blow your expectations

1041
00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:17,740
out through the back of your head expect

1042
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:20,350
the expected just don't forget about the

1043
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:20,830
rest

1044
00:46:28,290 --> 00:46:24,730
mm-hmm right because being opened to the

1045
00:46:31,770 --> 00:46:28,300
unknown shouldn't mean that you trash

1046
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:31,780
the known right there you know although

1047
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:34,710
the the sort of direction of our

1048
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,350
republic seems to be in a more uncertain

1049
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:40,720
place than it's been for a while like it

1050
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:42,910
or not you know our lives are not

1051
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,580
equally chaotic yeah the configuration

1052
00:46:50,610 --> 00:46:46,960
is this year we'll definitely have some

1053
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:50,620
surprises and shifts for people big

1054
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,250
jumps but it's not the same thing right

1055
00:46:58,590 --> 00:46:56,560
it's not complete randomness no it is

1056
00:47:01,650 --> 00:46:58,600
yeah and on no level is a complete

1057
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:01,660
randomness and just because the larger

1058
00:47:08,310 --> 00:47:04,750
entity that you're inside of is in a

1059
00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:08,320
particularly volatile state it doesn't

1060
00:47:13,590 --> 00:47:10,660
mean that your life is in exactly that

1061
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:13,600
same state right makes sense yeah I see

1062
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:15,640
a lot of people conflating the sort of

1063
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:17,830
macro and micro or the personal and

1064
00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:20,290
political right now and you know they

1065
00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:21,880
both exist and they're both worth

1066
00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:23,320
considering but though you gotta

1067
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:24,760
remember that they don't operate under

1068
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:27,850
exactly the same rules so but looking at

1069
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:29,470
this year led me into with a lot of

1070
00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:32,830
thinking about flexible planning right

1071
00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:36,040
there are some military Maxim's and

1072
00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:38,440
axioms where it's like you plan for

1073
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:40,990
everything and then once you get into

1074
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:42,640
the battle you toss that out the window

1075
00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:45,370
right but you do that planning first

1076
00:47:51,540 --> 00:47:47,790
yeah in case things go according to plan

1077
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:51,550
then you're prepared right you just you

1078
00:47:56,370 --> 00:47:54,310
just don't freak out when the territory

1079
00:48:00,690 --> 00:47:56,380
in the map no longer have a meaningful

1080
00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:00,700
relationship so fire fire fire and I'm

1081
00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:02,320
going to spare you all the technical

1082
00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:05,230
details there one of the as far as

1083
00:48:11,010 --> 00:48:08,700
volatility we get a lot of it basically

1084
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:11,020
February through like let's say mid

1085
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:13,270
February mid April there's a

1086
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:16,330
particularly intense potentially for

1087
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:18,910
people like positive transformative

1088
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:21,250
period also a period that a lot of

1089
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:23,650
little freak a lot of people out for

1090
00:48:27,059 --> 00:48:25,210
both personal and political reasons

1091
00:48:29,579 --> 00:48:27,069
because we get a couple things on top of

1092
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:29,589
each other right you know if you look at

1093
00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:31,720
human beings most human beings are

1094
00:48:36,029 --> 00:48:33,640
pretty good at dealing with one thing at

1095
00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:36,039
a time even if it's really hard it's

1096
00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:37,960
when you get things coming from a couple

1097
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:40,390
different angles and you can't deal with

1098
00:48:44,279 --> 00:48:41,970
this because this demands your attention

1099
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:44,289
but you can't totally focus on this

1100
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:46,030
because there's that other thing right

1101
00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:47,710
and that's you know when you look at

1102
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:49,420
human life through the lens of astrology

1103
00:48:54,750 --> 00:48:52,690
you look at periods of time where the

1104
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:54,760
planets are again like I have a lot of

1105
00:48:58,650 --> 00:48:56,650
faith in people to deal with one thing

1106
00:49:00,480 --> 00:48:58,660
at a time even if it's really difficult

1107
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:00,490
but when there's a bunch of stuff going

1108
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:02,470
on and nope there's not you don't have

1109
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:04,690
enough bandwidth to really solve that

1110
00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:06,910
one thing those are the periods that

1111
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:09,670
really tend to be more difficult to

1112
00:49:16,859 --> 00:49:13,900
handle right on so that said the factors

1113
00:49:18,859 --> 00:49:16,869
that make this next specially you know

1114
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:18,869
again mid-february to mid-march is

1115
00:49:24,269 --> 00:49:21,730
probably the the most interesting and

1116
00:49:28,049 --> 00:49:24,279
intense block of time because we get

1117
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,059
some eclipses and we get a Venus

1118
00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:30,640
retrograde right so people probably here

1119
00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:34,329
Mercury retrograde bandied about yeah so

1120
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:35,980
mercury goes retrograde three times a

1121
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,079
year it's worth noting it doesn't

1122
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:40,720
signify the apocalypse Venus is

1123
00:49:45,930 --> 00:49:43,089
retrograde happens once every year and a

1124
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:45,940
half about a year and a half and those

1125
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:48,609
year and a half increments are bundled

1126
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:51,430
together to make a very orderly eight

1127
00:49:59,700 --> 00:49:54,910
year cycle which repeats itself so this

1128
00:50:02,370 --> 00:49:59,710
is the Venus in Aries retrograde and the

1129
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:02,380
planet will be a retrograde from our

1130
00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:04,750
point of view from I believe it's March

1131
00:50:14,609 --> 00:50:09,390
4th to a prolonged and OH February and

1132
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:14,619
so what Venus retrograde do or what kind

1133
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:17,680
of experiences they correspond to they

1134
00:50:23,579 --> 00:50:21,250
dig up what's in people's hearts it's

1135
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:23,589
basically like it's like taking an

1136
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:27,130
emotional laxative a lot of the stuff

1137
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:30,490
that's in people comes out and it's very

1138
00:50:36,010 --> 00:50:32,690
important for relation

1139
00:50:38,589 --> 00:50:36,020
chips and it's in relationships both on

1140
00:50:41,050 --> 00:50:38,599
a personal level as well as a collective

1141
00:50:42,730 --> 00:50:41,060
level but you know in terms of people's

1142
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:42,740
personal lives the Venus retrograde xur

1143
00:50:48,579 --> 00:50:46,160
a period of cleansing and you know

1144
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:48,589
things out and then saying oh I

1145
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:50,930
guess I've been carrying that around

1146
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:53,089
I've been packed up pretty here and a

1147
00:50:59,020 --> 00:50:56,690
half yeah and it's interesting in terms

1148
00:51:00,970 --> 00:50:59,030
of like what you see in the news Venus

1149
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:00,980
retrograde tend to be good for sex

1150
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:04,960
scandals all right yeah Pizza Gate Oh

1151
00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:08,210
God and so with one thing that's

1152
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:09,560
interesting is because you have this

1153
00:51:15,220 --> 00:51:13,130
eight year cycle comprised of five units

1154
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,230
retrogrades what you'll see is that

1155
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:18,319
people because of the structure of their

1156
00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:21,550
their charts individually tend to be

1157
00:51:27,339 --> 00:51:25,220
sensitive to one or another of these and

1158
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,349
if you can just if you do a little

1159
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:29,599
history and you can figure out which one

1160
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:32,810
which one's of these matter for you you

1161
00:51:37,930 --> 00:51:34,730
can get really interesting and

1162
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:37,940
consistent precedents and that that

1163
00:51:42,460 --> 00:51:40,790
allows you to project forward there's a

1164
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:42,470
friend and colleague of mine Patrick

1165
00:51:47,770 --> 00:51:45,530
Watson took a look at this Venus

1166
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,780
retrograde cycle just one in Aries which

1167
00:51:53,890 --> 00:51:50,000
is again so this is like late winter

1168
00:51:57,540 --> 00:51:53,900
spring 2017 late winter spring 2009 late

1169
00:52:01,079 --> 00:51:57,550
winter spring 2001 93 you know etc etc

1170
00:52:04,569 --> 00:52:01,089
anyways we looked at this with Trump and

1171
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:04,579
almost everything almost every important

1172
00:52:11,740 --> 00:52:08,450
event in his romantic life cooks into

1173
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:11,750
this cycle Wow yeah people should read

1174
00:52:17,410 --> 00:52:14,810
the article look up Patrick Watson Venus

1175
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:17,420
Trump yeah and it goes back into the

1176
00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:20,240
early 80s and it's like he meets his

1177
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:23,180
wife he divorces his wife he becomes a

1178
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:25,130
bachelor he goes back to being married

1179
00:52:29,650 --> 00:52:28,250
like it's just these big signposts ha

1180
00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:29,660
you know if you're looking at the

1181
00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:32,780
symbolism or the meaning of you know a

1182
00:52:37,089 --> 00:52:35,240
planet from our perspective reversing

1183
00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:37,099
its course a lot of times you have

1184
00:52:42,849 --> 00:52:39,470
reversals right where it's like changing

1185
00:52:45,309 --> 00:52:42,859
directions and so you'll see that and a

1186
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:45,319
lot of people will feel that emotionally

1187
00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:46,640
they'll feel like change

1188
00:52:51,220 --> 00:52:48,680
directions well maybe I don't want to do

1189
00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:51,230
this and then they'll come back to maybe

1190
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,240
I do want to do this but not this way or

1191
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:55,760
maybe I do love this person or there's a

1192
00:53:00,280 --> 00:52:58,160
lot of literally what's funny is what

1193
00:53:03,370 --> 00:53:00,290
you see what you people experience is

1194
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:03,380
back and forth about something and

1195
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,690
that's what the planet is visibly doing

1196
00:53:09,970 --> 00:53:07,280
if you watch two different talk a bit

1197
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:09,980
back and forth or the same patch of sky

1198
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:13,010
right on all right so we have that and

1199
00:53:19,390 --> 00:53:15,050
so that like volatize is the passion

1200
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:19,400
right and so we have that brewing well

1201
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:22,010
we have two eclipses and that's not

1202
00:53:27,970 --> 00:53:24,920
necessarily a crazy thing there are four

1203
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:27,980
eclipses every year with very few

1204
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:30,940
exceptions they're not all equally

1205
00:53:36,910 --> 00:53:34,250
intense but they they're you almost

1206
00:53:39,610 --> 00:53:36,920
always get forever year but you get a

1207
00:53:41,590 --> 00:53:39,620
2-pack at a time you get a one solar one

1208
00:53:44,830 --> 00:53:41,600
lunar and then about six months later

1209
00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:44,840
you get one solar in one lunar right so

1210
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:48,080
this year we get it we have a penumbral

1211
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:52,490
eclipse in leo on February 10th and then

1212
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:56,240
we have an annular eclipse in solar

1213
00:54:02,410 --> 00:53:58,850
eclipse in Pisces on the 26th of the

1214
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,420
month and in annular eclipse is one of

1215
00:54:07,630 --> 00:54:04,880
those Ring of Fire one they're really

1216
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:07,640
cool looking it's not just like some

1217
00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:09,770
kind of beer barely visible sort of

1218
00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:12,500
shadow yeah because sometimes

1219
00:54:14,770 --> 00:54:13,430
you know you hear there's going to be an

1220
00:54:17,530 --> 00:54:14,780
eclipse and you go to see in your like

1221
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,540
well that really wasn't that cool that

1222
00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:20,240
was it yeah that was that I thought that

1223
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:21,350
you know I thought it was going to be

1224
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:23,510
darkness in the day and the birds would

1225
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:25,610
come out and start singing hymns to the

1226
00:54:34,090 --> 00:54:32,480
old ones and you know but eclipses do a

1227
00:54:37,150 --> 00:54:34,100
lot of things there's a lot of eclipses

1228
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:37,160
lorb people have been telling stories

1229
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:39,350
about eclipses as long as they're been

1230
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:41,090
people it's one of the when you know

1231
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:42,650
when you get a real one it's one of the

1232
00:54:48,340 --> 00:54:45,290
most dramatic celestial events you can

1233
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:48,350
see right on what I will say is that

1234
00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:50,470
what eclipses you do consistently is

1235
00:54:58,300 --> 00:54:53,950
they get things moving that which is

1236
00:55:00,460 --> 00:54:58,310
latent in a person's life often rises to

1237
00:55:03,099 --> 00:55:00,470
the surface and then makes a change

1238
00:55:05,530 --> 00:55:03,109
it's almost like the eclipses sort of if

1239
00:55:07,809 --> 00:55:05,540
we have like the sort of visible and

1240
00:55:11,260 --> 00:55:07,819
invisible or the apparent and the latent

1241
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:11,270
those two are usually kind of off-center

1242
00:55:16,210 --> 00:55:13,310
they're kind of they're not quite

1243
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,220
connecting right so some stuff stays

1244
00:55:20,339 --> 00:55:18,079
over here and hidden and some stuff

1245
00:55:22,780 --> 00:55:20,349
stays over here and seen and visible

1246
00:55:27,130 --> 00:55:22,790
eclipses tend to bring those two layers

1247
00:55:29,770 --> 00:55:27,140
into alignment and so what you get as

1248
00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:29,780
stuff comes out of nowhere and also

1249
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:33,140
stuff goes back to nowhere it's almost

1250
00:55:38,859 --> 00:55:35,810
like the mythological angle on it would

1251
00:55:41,770 --> 00:55:38,869
be like the gateway between the world of

1252
00:55:43,569 --> 00:55:41,780
the living and the dead is open for

1253
00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:43,579
business and stuff can jump out of there

1254
00:55:48,370 --> 00:55:46,430
and stuff can fall into there and what

1255
00:55:49,059 --> 00:55:48,380
that means in practice is stuff moves a

1256
00:55:53,260 --> 00:55:49,069
lot quicker

1257
00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:53,270
during that lunar cycle and so so we

1258
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,800
have a pair of those the one on February

1259
00:55:59,650 --> 00:55:57,200
10th is you kind of feel it but it's not

1260
00:56:02,980 --> 00:55:59,660
it's not super dramatic the one on the

1261
00:56:05,170 --> 00:56:02,990
26 on February 26 is pretty intense and

1262
00:56:07,390 --> 00:56:05,180
it's right around Venus retrograde

1263
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:07,400
station there's some pretty intense Mars

1264
00:56:12,190 --> 00:56:09,710
stuff happening and if February should

1265
00:56:16,089 --> 00:56:12,200
be pretty interesting and by interesting

1266
00:56:18,579 --> 00:56:16,099
I mean semi terrifying if you watch yes

1267
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,589
and so there's that and then you know

1268
00:56:24,099 --> 00:56:20,480
we'll work through that and go back to

1269
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:24,109
sort of the normal volatility for this

1270
00:56:29,740 --> 00:56:26,569
year because to see this year as a whole

1271
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:29,750
is you know more volatile than most

1272
00:56:34,270 --> 00:56:31,609
years right just you know if we looked

1273
00:56:37,059 --> 00:56:34,280
at like a 40-year average right a lot of

1274
00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:37,069
questions there are a lot of questions

1275
00:56:42,819 --> 00:56:39,400
throughout the year when I wrote my

1276
00:56:45,220 --> 00:56:42,829
mighty is attempting to summarize 2017

1277
00:56:48,250 --> 00:56:45,230
but I can December I decided to go with

1278
00:56:49,780 --> 00:56:48,260
a casino metaphor right yeah right

1279
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,790
because it's like you gotta you gotta

1280
00:56:53,770 --> 00:56:51,680
wait for those cards to get turned over

1281
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:53,780
before you know how strong your hand is

1282
00:56:58,990 --> 00:56:56,480
and you know one thing that's fun about

1283
00:57:02,640 --> 00:56:59,000
poker is a metaphor is it's a game of

1284
00:57:05,230 --> 00:57:02,650
both skill and chance yeah it's not like

1285
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:05,240
everything's random you might get

1286
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:07,760
you know that that's not that's not the

1287
00:57:12,490 --> 00:57:09,650
message it's just that there's you know

1288
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,500
there are a lot of you think of the

1289
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:14,000
lotteries where they have all the little

1290
00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:14,510
ball

1291
00:57:18,670 --> 00:57:16,670
bouncing around right you know no matter

1292
00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:18,680
what industry you're in right now

1293
00:57:23,590 --> 00:57:21,260
there's a good chance that everybody's

1294
00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:23,600
watching those balls and they're you

1295
00:57:29,290 --> 00:57:25,270
know it's going to be plan a B or C

1296
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:29,300
depending on which ones come up right

1297
00:57:32,290 --> 00:57:30,170
right

1298
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:32,300
I love the analogy because it's like

1299
00:57:36,730 --> 00:57:34,130
you're talking earlier about the

1300
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:36,740
flexibility required and I play a lot of

1301
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:38,960
Texas Hold'em you get your two cards and

1302
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:40,730
then you see the flop and that could

1303
00:57:44,410 --> 00:57:43,310
drastically change your situation and

1304
00:57:47,110 --> 00:57:44,420
when you get to the river I mean

1305
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:47,120
everybody knows the river can turn the

1306
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:50,090
whole game upside down so yeah you can

1307
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:52,370
plan but then you also have to be ready

1308
00:57:57,550 --> 00:57:55,490
for sudden changes right right and so

1309
00:58:00,580 --> 00:57:57,560
that's part of the you know that

1310
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,590
territory of this year and to a certain

1311
00:58:06,990 --> 00:58:02,960
degree that that's interesting for me as

1312
00:58:10,270 --> 00:58:07,000
an astrologer because the symbols are

1313
00:58:12,220 --> 00:58:10,280
literally giving are providing this

1314
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,230
image for this impression right saying

1315
00:58:17,470 --> 00:58:14,720
like okay wait and see and then move it

1316
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:17,480
doesn't mean don't come up with any

1317
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:19,310
ideas about what you might do if this

1318
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:22,130
eventualities a mob but you know the

1319
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:26,210
strategy is not you know fixed start to

1320
00:58:32,290 --> 00:58:29,450
finish it the strategy of working with a

1321
00:58:34,810 --> 00:58:32,300
volatile situation which is interesting

1322
00:58:36,550 --> 00:58:34,820
because that's in contradiction to a

1323
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:36,560
certain degree with the idea of oh I'm

1324
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:38,930
going to predict the future right yeah

1325
00:58:43,540 --> 00:58:40,610
soon as you can see that there's a

1326
00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:43,550
period where making hard predictions and

1327
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:45,740
expecting things to go exactly that way

1328
00:58:52,330 --> 00:58:50,000
is not a good strategy right right which

1329
00:58:54,690 --> 00:58:52,340
is ironic because that in of itself is

1330
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:54,700
hopefully an accurate prediction right

1331
00:58:59,620 --> 00:58:57,650
yeah but again there's that meta level

1332
00:59:02,410 --> 00:58:59,630
where you're not immune to the times

1333
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:02,420
that you're getting the data on you can

1334
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:03,920
say this is a period of history that

1335
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:06,170
looks like this and if you live through

1336
00:59:11,830 --> 00:59:09,110
that you don't get a free pass you get a

1337
00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:11,840
you know you get maybe a better map but

1338
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:13,700
you know the map does not make you

1339
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:15,650
invulnerable in the territory it's not

1340
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:20,210
god mode right whilst that so one thing

1341
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:22,880
I want to get to it's really interesting

1342
00:59:26,430 --> 00:59:24,310
of

1343
00:59:29,630 --> 00:59:26,440
probably the most interesting single

1344
00:59:32,130 --> 00:59:29,640
thing in the astrology of 2017 is

1345
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:32,140
something that's already being called

1346
00:59:38,250 --> 00:59:35,170
the great American Eclipse yeah August

1347
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:38,260
right I love that I love like evocative

1348
00:59:44,580 --> 00:59:42,040
poetic titles oh yeah you know the media

1349
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:44,590
very rarely gives me those we usually

1350
00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:47,530
have to make them up myself yeah so that

1351
00:59:54,810 --> 00:59:50,320
the great American eclipse is a total

1352
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:54,820
solar eclipse in August and let me get

1353
01:00:00,450 --> 00:59:58,210
you the actual date it's um it's August

1354
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:00,460
21st I think I wrote it on the calendar

1355
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:03,460
yeah I just got done writing about

1356
01:00:10,070 --> 01:00:06,490
February exhaustively and so all of my

1357
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:10,080
my data slots per temporarily occupied

1358
01:00:18,540 --> 01:00:14,410
mm-hmm do do oh there it is beautiful ad

1359
01:00:22,590 --> 01:00:18,550
so it's is August 21st and so that is a

1360
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:22,600
total solar eclipse in leo

1361
01:00:28,290 --> 01:00:25,510
now the reason that it's being called

1362
01:00:31,260 --> 01:00:28,300
the great American Eclipse is that it

1363
01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:31,270
will be visible through almost the

1364
01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:35,800
entire country it'll start if you track

1365
01:00:40,260 --> 01:00:37,660
the path of it across the country

1366
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:40,270
basically starts being visible in the

1367
01:00:46,770 --> 01:00:43,450
northwestern United States and then it

1368
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:46,780
sort of exits down there around the sort

1369
01:00:53,310 --> 01:00:50,410
of south-central East Coast and so we

1370
01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:53,320
haven't had a total floor eclipse that

1371
01:01:00,740 --> 01:00:55,150
was visible across pretty much the

1372
01:01:02,010 --> 01:01:00,750
entire continental US since Huson 1918

1373
01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:02,020
1918

1374
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:03,700
right so this doesn't happen very often

1375
01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:07,090
and what's even more interesting about

1376
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:10,630
that is so this eclipse takes place at

1377
01:01:17,490 --> 01:01:14,740
the very end of the sign of Leo and it

1378
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:17,500
takes place at 28 degrees out of 30 of

1379
01:01:24,809 --> 01:01:20,710
Leo and

1380
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:24,819
back to Trump Trump has that Mars that

1381
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:27,010
we were talking about and that ascendant

1382
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:30,609
in the last degrees of Leo so this is

1383
01:01:38,250 --> 01:01:33,730
right on his Mars and it's right on his

1384
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:38,260
ascendant and so you know if if a client

1385
01:01:42,029 --> 01:01:40,089
came to me and we were sitting down were

1386
01:01:44,099 --> 01:01:42,039
like oh let's talk about this year and I

1387
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:44,109
saw that you know my eyebrows would

1388
01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:45,970
would would shoot through my hairline

1389
01:01:54,420 --> 01:01:50,200
hmm that's a that's a big in mythology

1390
01:01:57,269 --> 01:01:54,430
goes you know eclipses it interesting it

1391
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:57,279
it can be difficult to know exactly what

1392
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,920
eclipses with you but they do stuff it's

1393
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:01,839
a highly charged moment yeah you

1394
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:04,240
underline it a couple times and you know

1395
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:06,809
you get out your highlighter right and

1396
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:09,760
that ascendant we're talking about that

1397
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:12,640
the ascending degree of a chart that's

1398
01:02:18,809 --> 01:02:14,410
considered to be an extremely sensitive

1399
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:18,819
point in a person's natal chart we could

1400
01:02:23,130 --> 01:02:20,529
say that that's analogous to your

1401
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:23,140
doorstop right that's your front that's

1402
01:02:27,690 --> 01:02:25,450
the front door of your chart right and

1403
01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:27,700
so when you get a significant

1404
01:02:33,230 --> 01:02:30,190
configuration that comes to your

1405
01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:33,240
doorstep like that it's gonna mean stuff

1406
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:37,630
and so that's really interesting and you

1407
01:02:41,970 --> 01:02:39,250
know it's so funny that it's literally

1408
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:41,980
on the rising of the President of the

1409
01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:44,260
United States and just happened to be

1410
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:47,190
visible across all of the United States

1411
01:02:53,069 --> 01:02:50,170
man right so you know that says

1412
01:02:54,779 --> 01:02:53,079
something about this country it's my

1413
01:02:57,989 --> 01:02:54,789
country can you say if it's more

1414
01:03:00,689 --> 01:02:57,999
positive or negative so

1415
01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:00,699
what I will say is because it's in Leo

1416
01:03:07,019 --> 01:03:03,099
and it's on dragon's head or North node

1417
01:03:09,179 --> 01:03:07,029
of the moon in general dis Eclipse cycle

1418
01:03:11,369 --> 01:03:09,189
because this one is in Leo but we're

1419
01:03:15,149 --> 01:03:11,379
going to have them in Leo and Aquarius

1420
01:03:17,639 --> 01:03:15,159
until early 2018 Eclipse his move in

1421
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:17,649
cycles where you get you'll get them in

1422
01:03:22,289 --> 01:03:20,049
this pair of signs and then this pair of

1423
01:03:27,569 --> 01:03:22,299
signs and the next pair of signs it's

1424
01:03:29,669 --> 01:03:27,579
roughly 18 months per cycle doesn't

1425
01:03:33,269 --> 01:03:29,679
always work out to exactly that this one

1426
01:03:35,759 --> 01:03:33,279
is going to be more like 23 but so this

1427
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:35,769
one has the North node or the dragon's

1428
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:38,169
head which is the Eclipse indicator in

1429
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:40,169
Leo so half a Morgan to me in Leo

1430
01:03:45,869 --> 01:03:44,079
generally if I were interpreting that it

1431
01:03:51,809 --> 01:03:45,879
would mean that it would it would speak

1432
01:03:55,879 --> 01:03:51,819
to a rise in identification with now as

1433
01:03:59,069 --> 01:03:55,889
you say a rise in nationalism a rise in

1434
01:04:01,679 --> 01:03:59,079
you know waving a banner and identifying

1435
01:04:04,829 --> 01:04:01,689
with the banner it's very like team

1436
01:04:06,959 --> 01:04:04,839
sports damn on a positive level on an

1437
01:04:08,729 --> 01:04:06,969
individual level I think this psyche

1438
01:04:11,429 --> 01:04:08,739
will give a lot of people to courage to

1439
01:04:14,369 --> 01:04:11,439
stand up and say this is who I am and

1440
01:04:17,509 --> 01:04:14,379
this is what I believe it's basically a

1441
01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:17,519
push to get out there and represent

1442
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:21,369
whatever that and it's very linked to

1443
01:04:26,459 --> 01:04:24,249
the identification mechanism which

1444
01:04:29,009 --> 01:04:26,469
obviously works on a national level and

1445
01:04:31,439 --> 01:04:29,019
works on a on a local level and an

1446
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:31,449
individual level we can think of a lot

1447
01:04:36,329 --> 01:04:33,729
of you know a lot of nationalism to

1448
01:04:38,609 --> 01:04:36,339
terrible things but that process of

1449
01:04:42,169 --> 01:04:38,619
identification with something is not

1450
01:04:45,479 --> 01:04:42,179
inherently pathological unless you're a

1451
01:04:47,279 --> 01:04:45,489
really serious Buddhist right like

1452
01:04:48,659 --> 01:04:47,289
they're being willing to step into you

1453
01:04:51,209 --> 01:04:48,669
know what this is who I am and this is

1454
01:04:53,189 --> 01:04:51,219
what I believe and I'm willing to you

1455
01:04:55,529 --> 01:04:53,199
know I'm willing to be seen doing that

1456
01:04:57,209 --> 01:04:55,539
right that seems to be happening a lot

1457
01:04:59,159 --> 01:04:57,219
even with the women's March and the

1458
01:05:02,369 --> 01:04:59,169
react the negative reaction to Trump I

1459
01:05:05,339 --> 01:05:02,379
mean that's in the air wow man I love it

1460
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:05,349
so that does just about covered I think

1461
01:05:09,149 --> 01:05:07,569
and just like last time I leave this

1462
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:09,159
conversation really fired up about

1463
01:05:13,710 --> 01:05:11,650
astrology and I've definitely got a

1464
01:05:15,570 --> 01:05:13,720
Yukie areas marked on my calendar that

1465
01:05:18,090 --> 01:05:15,580
eclipse for sure and we'll see what

1466
01:05:19,770 --> 01:05:18,100
happens and if people do want more

1467
01:05:21,630 --> 01:05:19,780
austin topic remind them how to do that

1468
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:21,640
you have some intensive classes you have

1469
01:05:25,890 --> 01:05:23,170
a yearly almanac what else should people

1470
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:25,900
know so you can find pretty much

1471
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:27,070
everything i'm doing

1472
01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:32,830
at austin capcom i write almost i write

1473
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:36,580
every week I write weeklies I write I

1474
01:05:41,930 --> 01:05:39,280
write about months I wrote about this

1475
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:41,940
year I've been doing a lot of writing

1476
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:45,610
trying to put it down I'm teaching a

1477
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:48,010
series of classes on the fundamentals of

1478
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:50,530
astrology the first one actually starts

1479
01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:54,160
tomorrow on the 4th of February so that

1480
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:57,430
people probably won't get this in time

1481
01:06:02,730 --> 01:05:59,680
to sign up for that but that's part of

1482
01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:02,740
an eight month modular series where you

1483
01:06:07,350 --> 01:06:05,260
can jump in at any point and you can

1484
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:07,360
also get recordings if you want to catch

1485
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:10,090
up but yeah I'm teaching classes for

1486
01:06:15,810 --> 01:06:12,450
beginner intermediate advanced topics

1487
01:06:17,850 --> 01:06:15,820
all year and I try to you know get that

1488
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:17,860
out through newsletters and

1489
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:20,770
announcements and whatnot oh I I do

1490
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:22,810
readings usually I'm booked out till

1491
01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:26,490
June right now damn can dress thank you

1492
01:06:32,730 --> 01:06:30,040
yeah it's a great problem to have

1493
01:06:36,270 --> 01:06:32,740
I feel really bad telling someone they

1494
01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:36,280
have to wait for months but it's just I

1495
01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:40,750
just can't do it it's not something I

1496
01:06:45,030 --> 01:06:43,240
like I don't want to rush you know I

1497
01:06:46,530 --> 01:06:45,040
don't it's not a conveyor about where

1498
01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:46,540
I'm just like let's do everyone quickly

1499
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:47,980
you know as quickly and efficiently as

1500
01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:50,170
possible let's get this assembly line

1501
01:06:54,930 --> 01:06:53,350
style divination going but if people

1502
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:54,940
want to make an appoint with me for the

1503
01:07:00,120 --> 01:06:57,520
summer you know because that you know

1504
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:00,130
that four or five months booked out just

1505
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:03,610
keeps pushing further and further so you

1506
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:05,110
know if you if you want to schedule a

1507
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:07,930
talk like it's way smarter to just get

1508
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,290
it

1509
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:10,480
ironed out now so you know that in

1510
01:07:15,420 --> 01:07:12,010
September we're going to have a chat or

1511
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:15,430
July yeah sweet that makes sense

1512
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:18,490
well very cool Austin you are the

1513
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:20,530
goddamn man thanks again take care of

1514
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:22,090
yourself out there well thanks for

1515
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:23,350
having me on it's always great to talk

1516
01:07:27,870 --> 01:07:24,490
to you

1517
01:07:30,660 --> 01:07:27,880
and boom goes the dynamite people the

1518
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:30,670
triumphant return of Austin Copic gotta

1519
01:07:35,580 --> 01:07:33,130
love it I'm becoming more and more of a

1520
01:07:37,380 --> 01:07:35,590
fan of astrology I just enjoy looking at

1521
01:07:40,410 --> 01:07:37,390
the world from that perspective once in

1522
01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:40,420
a while I think the way you explain the

1523
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:43,150
period we're in as it relates to the

1524
01:07:49,290 --> 01:07:46,330
Zodiac wheel is always so fascinating to

1525
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:49,300
me and this show is a rare case where

1526
01:07:54,030 --> 01:07:51,010
the main thing I wanted to explore and

1527
01:07:56,359 --> 01:07:54,040
talk about didn't come up until the Plus

1528
01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:56,369
show but that is the great American

1529
01:08:01,320 --> 01:07:59,170
Eclipse it's coming in August and every

1530
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:01,330
astrologer is apparently drawing a huge

1531
01:08:05,820 --> 01:08:04,020
circle around it as the event this year

1532
01:08:08,910 --> 01:08:05,830
astrologically it's the most interesting

1533
01:08:11,850 --> 01:08:08,920
and has some curious tie-ins to Trump's

1534
01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:11,860
chart but again that is mainly in the

1535
01:08:16,380 --> 01:08:13,900
second hour so sign up for plus if

1536
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:16,390
you're interested or just keep an eye on

1537
01:08:22,769 --> 01:08:19,690
August 21st onward a big part of why I

1538
01:08:25,650 --> 01:08:22,779
like astrology is that to some degree

1539
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:25,660
it's testable of course it's not always

1540
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:27,670
black and white but it's an art form

1541
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:30,730
really that goes back so long it should

1542
01:08:34,710 --> 01:08:32,290
be respected if you think the ancients

1543
01:08:37,289 --> 01:08:34,720
were insightful or that secret societies

1544
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,299
only study and maintain things that they

1545
01:08:41,849 --> 01:08:39,759
think have merit and with this eclipse

1546
01:08:44,519 --> 01:08:41,859
we don't know exactly what's going to

1547
01:08:46,620 --> 01:08:44,529
happen of course as Austan said but we

1548
01:08:49,289 --> 01:08:46,630
can highlight it and underline it and

1549
01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:49,299
expect it to be meaningful in some way

1550
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:52,390
and we'll just have to see but if you

1551
01:08:56,849 --> 01:08:54,850
liked Austin's first appearance I think

1552
01:08:59,700 --> 01:08:56,859
this is a pretty good complement to it a

1553
01:09:01,800 --> 01:08:59,710
pretty good continuation it's also funny

1554
01:09:04,289 --> 01:09:01,810
because I just mentioned last week how

1555
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:04,299
we got this fresh new form thing going

1556
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:07,600
on and someone actually posted about the

1557
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:10,000
Eclipse before this show came out and

1558
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:12,490
them being in Wyoming and that the whole

1559
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,650
town is getting booked up by tourists

1560
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,480
who want to get out there and see the

1561
01:09:20,910 --> 01:09:18,640
Eclipse from that vantage point even

1562
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:20,920
this far in advance several months I

1563
01:09:25,230 --> 01:09:23,440
find that interesting it's actually kind

1564
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:25,240
of cool that in the modern world people

1565
01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:27,670
would put that much foresight into

1566
01:09:33,150 --> 01:09:29,980
getting a good look at an astrological

1567
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:33,160
event planning their short rare

1568
01:09:38,190 --> 01:09:36,850
vacations around it I like it regardless

1569
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:38,200
of the reasoning

1570
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:40,630
I just like that the moon would have

1571
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:42,490
such an influence over the movement of

1572
01:09:44,490 --> 01:09:43,120
people

1573
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:44,500
makes you wonder who's really in charge

1574
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:48,640
huh so I thought the first hour of this

1575
01:09:52,020 --> 01:09:50,260
show was pretty awesome

1576
01:09:54,450 --> 01:09:52,030
of course I think the Eclipse talk in

1577
01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:54,460
the second is the highlight but you know

1578
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:55,720
to sign up you've probably been

1579
01:09:59,640 --> 01:09:57,370
listening long enough but some other

1580
01:10:02,340 --> 01:09:59,650
things we get into our aspects of my

1581
01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:02,350
natal chart and how 2017 looks for me

1582
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,350
who cares right but Austin also drop

1583
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:07,600
knowledge about the Chinese zodiac and

1584
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:10,000
what it means for 2017 to be the year of

1585
01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:12,760
the fire and really is there any

1586
01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:15,100
better president to be getting sworn in

1587
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:17,230
and the first month of the year the fire

1588
01:10:22,350 --> 01:10:19,930
to Donald Trump I mean I think

1589
01:10:24,330 --> 01:10:22,360
people who love them and those who hate

1590
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:24,340
them could probably come together and

1591
01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:26,530
agree that he sort of embodies that

1592
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:29,500
perfectly the apex of aggressive male

1593
01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:33,250
energy capitalism personified I think it

1594
01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:35,800
applies but we also talked about the

1595
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:38,920
importance of 2018 as a game changer

1596
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:42,490
year as opposed to 2017 just being 16

1597
01:10:46,620 --> 01:10:44,950
part two talked about the closing of

1598
01:10:48,750 --> 01:10:46,630
both the twenty and two hundred year

1599
01:10:50,910 --> 01:10:48,760
cycle and the implications that may have

1600
01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:50,920
on the elite in various power structures

1601
01:10:55,170 --> 01:10:53,080
throughout the planet a continuation of

1602
01:10:58,140 --> 01:10:55,180
something we did touch on in that last

1603
01:10:59,670 --> 01:10:58,150
talk and we also got into the fact that

1604
01:11:02,850 --> 01:10:59,680
we will be transitioning from an earth

1605
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:02,860
dominant era to an air dominant era and

1606
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:05,710
what that might mean to me it seemed to

1607
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:07,240
have characteristics that would be

1608
01:11:12,420 --> 01:11:09,910
appropriate for a rebuilding period

1609
01:11:15,810 --> 01:11:12,430
regardless of if we go through one or

1610
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:15,820
not they just seemed like helpful

1611
01:11:22,290 --> 01:11:18,330
attributes for a time period like that

1612
01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:22,300
so good time all around interesting

1613
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,760
stuff Austin is the man I took a little

1614
01:11:29,190 --> 01:11:27,040
long to get this show out I realized so

1615
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:29,200
the next one should be right around the

1616
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:29,890
corner

1617
01:11:34,860 --> 01:11:32,560
got to stay timely got to try to be

1618
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:34,870
professional and this next show is

1619
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:38,110
another return guest that I think a lot

1620
01:11:43,290 --> 01:11:39,790
of people liked last time we're going to

1621
01:11:45,780 --> 01:11:43,300
leave it a mystery because why not and

1622
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:45,790
with that I guess I'm out of here I've

1623
01:11:49,290 --> 01:11:46,720
done my part

1624
01:11:52,139 --> 01:11:49,300
your move natal chart navigators and the

1625
01:12:10,450 --> 01:11:52,149
mysterious forces of the zodiac wheel

1626
01:12:10,460 --> 01:13:05,790
I

1627
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:46,250
you

1628
01:14:45,109 --> 01:14:14,189
and

1629
01:14:55,349 --> 01:14:46,760
maybe

1630
01:14:55,359 --> 01:15:04,689
mmm